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01/23/2017 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:30:39 PM Start
01:32:35 PM Department of Transportation and Public Facilities: Department Overview
02:17:09 PM Department of Revenue Fy 18 Budget Overview
02:59:45 PM Judiciary: Alaska Court System Overview
03:29:22 PM Adjourn
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 23, 2017                                                                                           
                         1:30 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:30:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:30 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Paul Seaton, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Les Gara, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Jason Grenn                                                                                                      
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mark Luiken, Commissioner,  Department of Transportation and                                                                    
Public Facilities;  Amanda Holland,  Administrative Services                                                                    
Director,   Department   of    Transportation   and   Public                                                                    
Facilities;  Randall Hoffbeck,  Commissioner, Department  of                                                                    
Revenue;    Dan    DeBartolo,    Director,    Division    of                                                                    
Administrative   Services,  Department   of  Revenue;   Doug                                                                    
Wooliver,  Deputy  Administrative   Director,  Alaska  Court                                                                    
System;  Jerry Burnett,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department of                                                                    
Revenue;                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Department   of   Transportation  and   Public   Facilities:                                                                    
Department Overview                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Department of Revenue FY 18 Budget Overview                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Judiciary: Alaska Court System Overview                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton relayed the agenda for the day.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Department   of  Transportation   and  Public   Facilities:                                                                  
Department Overview                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:32:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK LUIKEN, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND                                                                    
PUBLIC FACILITIES,  introduced the  PowerPoint presentation:                                                                    
"Department   of  Transportation   and  Public   Facilities:                                                                    
Department Overview" (copy on file).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken turned  to slide  2: "Transportation  &                                                                    
Public Facilities:  Keep Alaska  Moving through  service and                                                                    
infrastructure." He indicated that  per Alaska Statute 44.42                                                                    
the  department  was  responsible  for  planning,  research,                                                                    
design,    construction,    operation,   maintenance,    and                                                                    
protection of  all state  transportation systems  and public                                                                    
facilities.  The   department  achieved  this   through  the                                                                    
department's core  services in its strategic  approach known                                                                    
as results-based alignment. He read from the slide:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   The Department of Transportation & Public Facilities is                                                                      
   responsible for providing these core services:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     · Preserve Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                          
     · Operate Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                           
    · Modernize Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                          
     · Provide Transportation Services                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken reported  that results-based  alignment                                                                    
was a  service delivery framework from  which the department                                                                    
measured  the contribution  of the  services the  department                                                                    
delivered  in support  of  its mission.  He  noted links  to                                                                    
source documents included on the slide.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:34:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA    HOLLAND,    ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES    DIRECTOR,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION  AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                                                                    
reviewed  slide 3:  "Department of  Transportation &  Public                                                                    
Facilities Share  of Total Agency Operations."  She reported                                                                    
that  the  slide  provided  a   10-year  look  back  of  the                                                                    
department's unrestricted general  fund (UGF) and designated                                                                    
general  fund  (DGF)  funding.  For  the  FY  18  governor's                                                                    
proposed budget,  the UGF total equaled  $145.7 million. The                                                                    
designated general  fund total  equaled $126.9  million. The                                                                    
numbers were close to the department's FY 09 levels.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland reviewed slide  4: "Department of Transportation                                                                    
&  Public  Facilities Line  Items."  She  reported that  the                                                                    
slide  showed  all  funds by  line  item.  The  department's                                                                    
commodities,  services, travel,  and personal  services were                                                                    
trending  below FY  12  levels. She  noted  that travel  was                                                                    
below the FY 08 level.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton announced  that  Representative Pruitt  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg referred  to the personal services                                                                    
line on  slide 4. He referred  to the numbers for  the FY 17                                                                    
management  plan  and for  the  FY  18 governor's  plan.  He                                                                    
wondered   about  whether   design   and  engineering   were                                                                    
contained  in the  numbers. Ms.  Holland indicated  that the                                                                    
chart reflected a 10-year look back.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg remarked  that  FY 18  governor's                                                                    
plan  was  included. Ms.  Holland  reported  that the  chart                                                                    
reflected the department's total  personal services cost for                                                                    
FY 18  including any  reductions of  positions that  were in                                                                    
the budget including design and construction positions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg was under  the impression that the                                                                    
numbers did not include estimated  savings or changes in the                                                                    
budget.  He  looked forward  to  further  discussion on  the                                                                    
proposal  to  move design  and  engineering  into a  private                                                                    
function within DOT's budget.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:38:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton explained  to  students in  the room  about                                                                    
decorum in a discussion, which  served the useful purpose of                                                                    
managing the meeting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  explained slide  5: "Appropriations  within the                                                                    
Department of Transportation &  Public Facilities: GF Only."                                                                    
She  pointed out  that  the graph  looked  at general  funds                                                                    
only,  which included  UGF  and DGF  sources.  There were  2                                                                    
result delivery units including  the Highways, Aviation, and                                                                    
Facilities  unit  and  the   Alaska  Marine  Highway  System                                                                    
(AMHS).  These delivery  units  made up  94  percent of  the                                                                    
department's general  fund operating  budget. It  meant that                                                                    
94  percent  of  the  department's  general  fund  operating                                                                    
budget  was dedicated  to direct  service for  Alaskans. She                                                                    
highlighted that the  FY 18 budget for AMHS was  near the FY                                                                    
08  level.  The  budget  for  the  Highways,  Aviation,  and                                                                    
Facilities unit was below the FY 08 level.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  turned to slide  6: "Appropriations  within the                                                                    
Department  of  Transportation   &  Public  Facilities:  All                                                                    
Funds." She relayed  that when looking at all  funds for the                                                                    
FY 18  governor's proposed  budget, the  Highways, Aviation,                                                                    
and Facilities unit  had the largest share  of the operating                                                                    
budget, while the  budget for AMHS was a  close second. Most                                                                    
of the  operating budget  was dedicated  to 3  core services                                                                    
including  preserving   Alaska's  infrastructure,  operating                                                                    
Alaska's   infrastructure,   and  providing   transportation                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Holland   advanced   to  slide   7:   "Department   of                                                                    
Transportation & Public  Facilities Total Funding Comparison                                                                    
by Fund Group:  All Funds." She informed  the committee that                                                                    
the  chart  showed  total funding  by  fund  group.  Capital                                                                    
improvement  program   (CIP)  receipts  comprised   over  50                                                                    
percent of the  other state funds category.  They funded the                                                                    
design, engineering, and oversight of the capital program.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland  continued  to  slide  8:  "Administration  and                                                                    
Support RDU."  The slide  broke down  the department  by the                                                                    
results delivery unit. It included  the funding breakdown by                                                                    
fund  category  in  the  second column  and  the  number  of                                                                    
positions in the third column.  The 3 furthest right columns                                                                    
showed constitutional, federal,  and statutory requirements.                                                                    
The  rating  of importance  column,  in  the middle  of  the                                                                    
slide, reflected the department's  rating of each program as                                                                    
either critical,  important, beneficial, or status  quo. She                                                                    
pointed to  the administration and support  results delivery                                                                    
unit,  which  included several  types  of  services such  as                                                                    
measurement   standards,  commercial   vehicle  enforcement,                                                                    
statewide  aviation,  program   development,  and  statewide                                                                    
planning.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton asked  which line she was  referring to. Ms.                                                                    
Holland drew attention to the  farthest left column labeled,                                                                    
"Component." Each of the  lines provided statewide functions                                                                    
performed by the department.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Seaton    asked   for    further   clarification.                                                                    
Commissioner Luiken pointed  to the statewide administrative                                                                    
services line.  Ms. Holland further  clarified that  she was                                                                    
showing  the different  components that  made up  the entire                                                                    
results delivery unit; Administration and Support.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki pointed to  the rating of importance                                                                    
to the  mission on slide  9. He focused on  three components                                                                    
that were  listed critical to the  mission: Statewide Design                                                                    
and  Engineering Services,  Regional Design  and Engineering                                                                    
Services  Components,  and  Regional  Construction  and  CIP                                                                    
Support Services.  He noted that  the three  components were                                                                    
taking  the hardest  hit  in  the budget.  He  asked her  to                                                                    
comment.  Ms. Holland  asked Representative  Kawasaki if  he                                                                    
was  asking about  the  Administration  and Support  Results                                                                    
Delivery Unit  or the  Design, Engineering  and Construction                                                                    
Results Delivery Unit.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki referred to  slide 9 which addressed                                                                    
Statewide Design  and Engineering Services,  Regional Design                                                                    
and   Engineering   Services    Components,   and   Regional                                                                    
Construction and CIP Support Services.  He thought the three                                                                    
components were  being targeted for the  largest reductions.                                                                    
Ms.  Holland would  address his  question  on the  following                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara commented  that the  legislature needed  to                                                                    
prioritize  what it  was spending  money on  in the  budget.                                                                    
There   were   several   new  roads   the   department   was                                                                    
considering. He  mentioned the Ambler  Road. He  asked where                                                                    
on the  chart could  he find the  money spent  on assessing,                                                                    
designing, planning, going  through the environmental impact                                                                    
statement  process. Commissioner  Luiken responded  that the                                                                    
Ambler Road  was not  a DOT  project. The  department listed                                                                    
personal  services  for  planning and  programing  could  be                                                                    
found   under  the   Statewide  Transportation   Improvement                                                                    
Program.  Any  funding that  would  be  put towards  design,                                                                    
engineering,  or  construction  would   be  placed  in  that                                                                    
component [Program Development and Statewide Planning].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:45:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  reported that the spending  in that section                                                                    
[Program  Development  and   Statewide  Planning]  was  $7.8                                                                    
million of other funding and  $268 thousand in UGF. He asked                                                                    
about  the other  funding. He  did  not believe  it was  all                                                                    
federal funding.  Ms. Holland replied  that the  other state                                                                    
funds included  several funding sources, over  50 percent of                                                                    
which   was  capital   improvement  program   receipts.  She                                                                    
elaborated   that  it   was  authority   to  spend   capital                                                                    
improvement  monies in  the  operating  budget. The  capital                                                                    
improvement   program  monies   came  through   the  federal                                                                    
government in the capital budget.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  asked the  commissioner for  a list  of new                                                                    
roads that are in the  planning stages and the amounts being                                                                    
spent on each. Commissioner Luiken  was happy to provide the                                                                    
information. He relayed  that he had given  the planning and                                                                    
programing  folks in  his department  4  priorities for  the                                                                    
department's  capital  program:   to  preserve  the  state's                                                                    
system, to  preserve the  state's bridges,  to base  any new                                                                    
roads or passing lanes on safety  data, to follow a time cap                                                                    
(if the  department had  started work  on a  federal project                                                                    
and  was running  up against  a time  limit it  would decide                                                                    
whether to go forward with or cancel the project).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg referred  to  slide  8 under  the                                                                    
columns labeled "Constitutional  Requirement" and "Federally                                                                    
Required." He highlighted  that on slide 9 and  slide 10 the                                                                    
only component  that was  constitutionally required  was the                                                                    
Commissioner's  Office. Whereas,  the  Equal Employment  and                                                                    
Civil Rights  Component was federally required.  He wondered                                                                    
if there  were state constitutional requirements  that dealt                                                                    
with  the issue  of equal  opportunity rights.  He mentioned                                                                    
the  Elizabeth  Peratrovich  Gallery  in  the  building.  He                                                                    
thought it should be looked  at again. Ms. Holland indicated                                                                    
the department could look at it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton  asked about  the methodology  used in                                                                    
terms of importance ratings. Ms.  Holland explained that for                                                                    
the rating  of importance the department's  primary guidance                                                                    
was provided in the memorandum  from Co-Chair Seaton and Co-                                                                    
Chair  Foster.   The  department  went  by   the  definition                                                                    
provided   for   what   constituted   critical,   important,                                                                    
beneficial,  and   status  quo.  Regarding  the   rating  of                                                                    
effectiveness,  individuals within  the department  assisted                                                                    
with both  ratings. The department  executive team  and some                                                                    
subject matter experts in specific areas.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:49:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Pruitt   referred   to   slide   7,   which                                                                    
highlighted the switch  from UGF to DGF. He  asked about the                                                                    
amount associated with and the  reasoning behind the change.                                                                    
Ms. Holland wanted  to clarify that he was  asking about why                                                                    
there was a significant change in UGF and DGF.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  thought it  was obvious that  UGF had                                                                    
been  supplemented for  DGF. More  importantly he  wanted to                                                                    
understand  the  thought  process  behind  the  change.  Ms.                                                                    
Holland  responded that  it tied  back  to the  department's                                                                    
results-based  alignment  and  the way  the  department  was                                                                    
working. It showed  that the services being  provided by the                                                                    
department    were   directly    connected   to    statutory                                                                    
requirements  and to  its mission.  She clarified  that with                                                                    
the   swap   to   a  DGF   amount   (the   proposed   Alaska                                                                    
Transportation  Maintenance Fund),  the department  would be                                                                    
allowed to take monies that  drivers and motorists paid, for                                                                    
example,  in motor  fuel tax  and apply  it directly  to the                                                                    
preservation and operation  of the roads they  were using to                                                                    
drive  their vehicles  on. The  department believed  that by                                                                    
having  it  as  a  DGF, the  department  could  show  Alaska                                                                    
exactly what  service the department  was providing  and how                                                                    
it  benefited  the tax  payer.  It  would better  show  what                                                                    
services  were being  provided,  such as  a pothole  getting                                                                    
patched.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:51:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt appreciated her  answer. He believed a                                                                    
fee for  service was needed. He  agreed that if there  was a                                                                    
situation where the  public was receiving a  benefit in some                                                                    
capacity or  in a particular  industry, such as  timber, the                                                                    
fee  should cover  the  cost of  providing  the service.  He                                                                    
thought  the challenge  was how  the legislature  would deal                                                                    
with the  thought process  of the  public. Moving  the funds                                                                    
looked like there  was a reduction of UGF,  appearing that a                                                                    
change was  made different than  what was actually  made. He                                                                    
wanted  to make  sure that  legislators clearly  articulated                                                                    
what  had  been  done  with  the  budget.  The  public  paid                                                                    
attention  to  unrestricted  general funds  (UGF).  He  just                                                                    
wanted to ensure transparency to the public.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton added  that was the reason he  had asked for                                                                    
the charts to reflect all  funds identified rather than only                                                                    
UGF. It would have been  hiding the ball rather than showing                                                                    
the location of the ball.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  did not believe anyone  was trying to                                                                    
hide anything.  He asked  about the  76 positions  that were                                                                    
being  cut and  moving  towards privatization.  Commissioner                                                                    
Luiken  indicated  it would  be  better  to wait  until  the                                                                    
department  saw the  settlement  between the  state and  the                                                                    
General Government Unit (GGU).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  inquired   about  privatization.  He                                                                    
relayed that  currently the agency contracted  55 percent of                                                                    
the  work. He  asked  if there  had been  PCNs  in the  past                                                                    
representing the  55 percent that was  currently privatized.                                                                    
He  suggested that  if  55 percent  was  accurate, then  the                                                                    
associated  PCN's   could  be   removed  from   the  budget.                                                                    
Commissioner  Luiken  responded  that in  keeping  with  the                                                                    
department's  core  value of  excellence  it  was driven  to                                                                    
continually improve. The department  was seeking to optimize                                                                    
the  delivery  of   its  capital  program.  A   key  to  the                                                                    
optimization was  to review the department's  workforce size                                                                    
and capabilities. The department  was unsure that 55 percent                                                                    
was  the optimal  number. He  thought the  feasibility study                                                                    
that department would be conducting  would help it to make a                                                                    
determination.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  indicated  that  the  committee  would  be                                                                    
returning to that question.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  referred to  the  DGF  on slide  7                                                                    
showed a huge increase. He  asked if the number included the                                                                    
governor's  proposed  increase  in   gas  tax.  Ms.  Holland                                                                    
responded affirmatively.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  questioned whether  the  committee                                                                    
would  have to  readjust the  formula  if the  bill did  not                                                                    
pass. Ms. Holland replied that  the department would have to                                                                    
readjust its ask for the FY 18 budget.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson asked  about privatizing engineering                                                                    
and  design.  He  thought  most of  the  engineers  were  90                                                                    
percent  funded  with  federal  money.  Commissioner  Luiken                                                                    
thought  the   discussion  needed  to  focus   on  what  the                                                                    
department  was   doing.  The  department  was   looking  to                                                                    
optimize  the  delivery  of DOT's  program.  He  added  that                                                                    
privatization was  not the  best term  to use.  However, the                                                                    
department's  real  focus and  effort  was  to optimize  the                                                                    
delivery of its program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  asked about the possibility  of the                                                                    
engineering being privatized to  firms that were working for                                                                    
companies  in  Alaska  but were  designing  and  engineering                                                                    
roads  in  other places  such  as  Seattle or  Portland.  He                                                                    
wondered  if the  90 percent  contribution from  the federal                                                                    
government  would  go to  Seattle  or  Portland rather  than                                                                    
remaining in-state. Commissioner  Luiken reiterated that the                                                                    
department could not make  a determination presently because                                                                    
it  did  not  have  the   necessary  data.  He  thought  the                                                                    
feasibility study  the department would be  conducting would                                                                    
help in making the determinations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  was  looking  forward  to  further                                                                    
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  if  90   percent  was  the  correct                                                                    
percentage of federal dollars the  state received to pay for                                                                    
the  positions.   Commissioner  Luiken  responded   that  he                                                                    
thought the number was close.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   noted  that   the  commissioner                                                                    
continued to  use the word  optimization. He asked  when the                                                                    
study  would  be  completed  in   reference  to  the  budget                                                                    
schedule. He had been under  the impression that design work                                                                    
had  already   been  contracted  out.   Commissioner  Luiken                                                                    
indicated  the   department  was  crafting  a   request  for                                                                    
proposal  (RFP) for  the study  to be  done. He  expected to                                                                    
have the  RFP out by  the end  of the month.  The department                                                                    
would issue  an award by  about the  end of February  with a                                                                    
start date  in March. The study  could take up to  6 months.                                                                    
He  noted  that  there  had  not  been  any  outsourcing  or                                                                    
privatization  with  the  current  budget.  The  feasibility                                                                    
study, currently,  did not need  to be completed  before the                                                                    
end of the budget cycle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg was  looking  at earlier  budgets                                                                    
and had  asked the  question between  FY 17  management plan                                                                    
and FY  18 governor's  plan about the  proposal. He  did not                                                                    
know if discussions  would ensue about what  the study would                                                                    
mean and what criteria the study would contain.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  mentioned that  he had  had a  meeting with                                                                    
the commissioner  earlier in  the day.  He conveyed  that of                                                                    
the 76  positions, not all of  them were filled and  some of                                                                    
them might be  part time. He had asked  the commissioner for                                                                    
information on the breakdown, which  he would provide to the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken continued  with  slide  8. He  reported                                                                    
that the department  had left the number  of Alaskans served                                                                    
column   blank  because   it   was   difficult  to   measure                                                                    
quantitatively.  The  state's transportation  infrastructure                                                                    
directly  and  indirectly   impacted  every  and  indirectly                                                                    
impacted  every Alaskan  every day.  The system  was working                                                                    
all the  time providing connectivity and  access to drivers,                                                                    
pilots,  and passengers  and delivering  goods such  as food                                                                    
and  medicine or  services such  as emergency  response. The                                                                    
department   indicated   "effective"   on  its   rating   of                                                                    
effectiveness  as  it  was currently  meeting  its  mission.                                                                    
Results-based alignment  was implemented in the  prior year.                                                                    
While the  department was  beginning to  see some  trends in                                                                    
performance data, it was still maturing.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  advanced to slide  9: "Design,  Engineering and                                                                    
Construction RDU  State Equipment  Fleet RDU." The  unit was                                                                    
responsible for  the design,  engineering, and  oversight of                                                                    
the  capital program,  which  included  roads, bridges,  and                                                                    
runways (generally  referred to as  horizontal construction)                                                                    
and   facilities   (vertical  construction).   The   Design,                                                                    
Engineering,  and  Construction  Results Delivery  Unit  was                                                                    
tied to  the state's infrastructure, which  was developed to                                                                    
address  the  unique needs  of  Alaskans  on the  move.  She                                                                    
reported  that only  2  percent of  Alaska's  land area  was                                                                    
accessible  by road.  She added  that 82  percent of  Alaska                                                                    
communities  were  not connected  to  the  road system.  She                                                                    
indicated that  the regional  components were  combined into                                                                    
one line for design and one line for construction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland continued  to report  on slide  9. She  relayed                                                                    
that  the  State  Equipment   Fleet  Results  Delivery  Unit                                                                    
procured, maintained,  and disposed of  vehicles, equipment,                                                                    
and  attachments  that  were   owned  and  operated  by  the                                                                    
executive  branch  agencies,  Legislative Affairs,  and  the                                                                    
Alaska  Court System.  It was  a shared  service responsible                                                                    
for 7,129 pieces of state equipment and vehicles.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken   advanced  to  slide   10:  "Highways,                                                                    
Aviation  &  Facilities  RDU,  International  Airports  RDU,                                                                    
Marine Highway  System RDU." He  relayed that an  example of                                                                    
the    department's   effectiveness    using   results-based                                                                    
alignment and its core services  was snow and ice removal by                                                                    
the   regional   highways   and  aviation   components.   He                                                                    
elaborated  that for  2017,  departmentwide, it  experienced                                                                    
231 winter weather events, which  meant a snow, ice, or wind                                                                    
event and  met its  time response goal  96.6 percent  of the                                                                    
time. Another  example of effectiveness was  provided by the                                                                    
Alaska  Marine Highway  System. The  on-time departure  rate                                                                    
for 2016 was  92 percent, a slight increase  from 91 percent                                                                    
for 2015.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  continued  that DOT  was  an  economic                                                                    
driver  for  Alaska. According  to  a  2016 economic  impact                                                                    
study,  every  dollar invested  in  AMHS  returned $2.30  of                                                                    
economic  benefit to  the state.  According to  reports from                                                                    
2011,  the  Ted  Stevens Anchorage  International  Airport's                                                                    
economic impact was 1 in  10 jobs in Anchorage. The economic                                                                    
impact of  the Fairbanks  International impact  was 1  in 20                                                                    
jobs  in  Fairbanks.  He was  happy  to  provide  additional                                                                    
information on how DOT was  using results-based alignment to                                                                    
align  its budgets  to  core services  and  to increase  its                                                                    
accountability through performance data.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  returned to slide  9. He drew  attention to                                                                    
the first  [Statewide Public  Facilities] and  third [Harbor                                                                    
Program Development]  components that  received a  rating of                                                                    
importance to  the mission of  beneficial. He asked  how the                                                                    
department   would    characterize   the    Harbor   Program                                                                    
Development component.  He wondered about the  nature of the                                                                    
component.  Ms.  Holland  responded that  the  program  that                                                                    
looked at  harbors and ports that  were scattered throughout                                                                    
the state.  It helped  with maintaining or  developing ports                                                                    
and harbors. It was a federal pass through program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton asked about  the Statewide Public Facilities                                                                    
component. He had  noticed it was graded  as beneficial. Ms.                                                                    
Holland  answered  that the  component  was  comprised of  a                                                                    
group of  design and construction engineers  who oversaw the                                                                    
construction of  facilities for  various agencies.  They did                                                                    
not  always work  on transportation  and public  facilities.                                                                    
They often assisted  with things such as a  fish hatchery or                                                                    
the scientific crime lab in Anchorage.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  wondered if  the  rating  had to  do  with                                                                    
directly affecting  the department's core mission.  It could                                                                    
be  an  RSA through  another  agency.  He  asked if  he  was                                                                    
accurate. Ms. Holland responded in the affirmative.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  asked about the  Harbor Development                                                                    
Program being a  federal pass through. The  amount was about                                                                    
$300 thousand UGF  and was not required  federally. He asked                                                                    
if  there  was someone  else  that  could  do the  job.  Ms.                                                                    
Holland would  have to  get back  to the  representative, as                                                                    
she was not intimately familiar with the program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  added  that  the  subcommittees  would  be                                                                    
taking up  issues in  greater detail.  Recommendations would                                                                    
be  presented  to  the full  House  Finance  Committee.  The                                                                    
subcommittees  would  be  looking  at  fees,  discounts,  or                                                                    
anything  else being  done in  the subcommittee  process. He                                                                    
noted indirect expenditures and  noted that there 2 reports.                                                                    
It was important  to make sure the state  was collecting all                                                                    
that was possible for services it was providing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki   returned   to   the   topic   of                                                                    
privatization and  asked why the  feasibility study  was not                                                                    
done prior  to adding it  to the  FY 18 budget.  Ms. Holland                                                                    
responded   that   in   collective   bargaining   agreements                                                                    
feasibility   studies  were   required  if   the  department                                                                    
anticipated layoffs of  permanent or probationary employees.                                                                    
The  department  did  not anticipate  any  layoffs  for  the                                                                    
proposed  budget of  FY 18.  Therefore, a  feasibility study                                                                    
was not required by collective bargaining ahead of time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki   relayed    the   importance   of                                                                    
legislators needing  to have the  information. He  wanted to                                                                    
make sure it  actually saved money. He asked, out  of the 55                                                                    
percent  of  the  design  work,  if  it  included  when  the                                                                    
department  contracted with  the municipality  to take  over                                                                    
the design work  like it was done in the  city of Fairbanks.                                                                    
Commissioner Luiken would respond later.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton mentioned the  programs under DOT that                                                                    
were paused. She asked if  they were accounted for and where                                                                    
she  could find  the  information.  Commissioner Luiken  was                                                                    
unclear what Representative Tilton  was asking. He was aware                                                                    
of  which projects  she  was  talking about.  Representative                                                                    
Tilton suggested the commissioner talk to her later.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grenn asked about  the cost or fee percentage                                                                    
which he noted ranged from  zero to 100 percent. He wondered                                                                    
if they  swung wildly from year  to year and whether  it was                                                                    
trackable  over  the previous  5  to  10 fiscal  years.  Ms.                                                                    
Holland would get back to him.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Seaton   encouraged   members   to   attend   the                                                                    
subcommittee meetings.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
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^Department of Revenue FY 18 Budget Overview                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton welcomed  the commissioner  from Department                                                                    
of Revenue (DOR).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL  HOFFBECK,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,                                                                    
introduced  the  Power  Point presentation:  "Department  of                                                                    
Revenue FY 18  Budget Overview" (copy on file).  He would be                                                                    
making a few  remarks and would be turning  to Mr. DeBartolo                                                                    
to walk through the presentation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck turned to  slide 2: "Alaska Department                                                                    
of  Revenue:  The Department  of  Revenue  Mission and  Core                                                                    
Programs":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   Mission: to collect, distribute, and invest funds for                                                                        
   public purposes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   Core Programs                                                                                                                
     · Treasury Division - Invest                                                                                               
     · Tax Division - Collect                                                                                                   
     · Permanent Fund Dividend Division - Distribute                                                                            
     · Child Support Services Division - Collect and                                                                            
        Distribute                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck relayed  that  the  slide showed  the                                                                    
department's mission statement and  the various functions of                                                                    
the department. He emphasized that  the department was laser                                                                    
focused on its specific mission  in all the functions within                                                                    
the  department. The  core  programs  included the  Treasury                                                                    
Division, the state's  investment arm. Investment management                                                                    
and  cash management  reside  within  the division.  Another                                                                    
core program  was the Tax  Division, the  state's collection                                                                    
component  for taxes.  The Permanent  Fund Division  handled                                                                    
the  distribution of  the Alaska  Permanent Fund.  The child                                                                    
Support Services Division was  another core program that was                                                                    
in charge  of collection and  distribution of funds  for the                                                                    
purposes   of  the   federal   mandate   on  child   support                                                                    
enforcement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Hoffbeck  advanced   to   slide  3:   "Alaska                                                                    
Department  of   Revenue:  Authorities,   Corporations,  and                                                                    
Boards":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   Authorities, Corporations, and Boards                                                                                        
     · Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC) - Invest                                                                       
        and Distribute                                                                                                          
     · Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation (APFC) - Invest                                                                        
     · Alaska Retirement Management Board (ARMB) - Invest                                                                       
     · Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA) -                                                                           
        Distribute                                                                                                              
     · Alaska Municipal Bond Bank Authority (AMBBA) -                                                                           
        Distribute                                                                                                              
Commissioner  Hoffbeck   explained  that   the  authorities,                                                                    
corporations, and boards resided  within the purview of DOR,                                                                    
but generally functioned autonomous from the departments.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN   DEBARTOLO,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,  scrolled  to  slide  4:                                                                    
"Department of Revenue Share of  Total Agency Operations: GF                                                                    
Only." He  pointed to  the note  by the  Legislative Finance                                                                    
Division regarding  a change over  time, which seemed  to be                                                                    
an important  function to discuss.  The general  fund budget                                                                    
grew by $5.1 million between FY  08 and the FY 18 governor's                                                                    
request with  an average annual  growth of 2  percent, which                                                                    
equated to  $83 per resident  worker. He commented  that the                                                                    
$83 was  a portion  of the state's  actual total  GF budget,                                                                    
not the actual  increase of $5.1 million.  He indicated that                                                                    
when looking at  the graph and talking about  trends, it was                                                                    
important to know why the  budget increased at the beginning                                                                    
of the time span. He provided  some context. First, in FY 09                                                                    
one of  the notable increases  was the implementation  of HB
2001  [Legislation that  passed in  2015] which  allowed for                                                                    
approximately $1.26  million to be  added to the  budget for                                                                    
audit  masters including  an  additional  support staff  and                                                                    
money  to implement  changes. Also,  during  that time,  the                                                                    
bargaining  unit  compensation including  health  insurance,                                                                    
saw a significant increase in that year.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  continued that during  the time period  of FY                                                                    
10 and FY  11 there was a significant jump  on the chart. He                                                                    
pointed out  that the department added  two positions during                                                                    
that time  including petroleum commercial  analyst positions                                                                    
for gasline  and production tax.  He mentioned that  many of                                                                    
the  other changes  were fund  source  changes. He  reported                                                                    
that  within   the  Division  of  Child   Support  Services,                                                                    
American  Recovery and  Reinvestment Act  (ARRA) funds  were                                                                    
going  away. The  department  had  to replace  approximately                                                                    
$826  million  while  the  stimulus  was  lapsing.  He  also                                                                    
mentioned that  for quite some  time Child  Support Services                                                                    
was receiving  designated general  funds (UGF). At  the time                                                                    
the funds were switched to a  GF match in the amount of $5.9                                                                    
million.   The   department   also   had   to   change   the                                                                    
Constitutional Budget  Reserve (CBR)  management fees  to GF                                                                    
in  the same  year in  the amount  of another  $2.1 million.                                                                    
While it  looked like  there was  a significant  increase in                                                                    
the agency  GF budget in  that time frame  from FY 10  to FY                                                                    
11, most of  it was a fund source change  rather than a pure                                                                    
growth in operations                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  was  looking  for  more  than  a                                                                    
number. He asked if there was  an example of or a value that                                                                    
the additional audit masters brought  into the state. He was                                                                    
aware they  had 6  years to  complete an  audit. He  did not                                                                    
know  if  the  state  had  not completed  one  on  time.  He                                                                    
suggested the results of the  audit brought the state closer                                                                    
to being  up to date  in order to  reduce the lag.  He asked                                                                    
about the  financial benefits resulting from  the additional                                                                    
audit masters.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck  answered that  it was  very difficult                                                                    
to  find  a  quantitative  number involved  with  the  audit                                                                    
masters. The  state had switched  from a gross tax  with the                                                                    
Petroleum  Production Tax  (PPT) to  the Alaska's  Clear and                                                                    
Equitable  Share  (ACES)   and  then  to  SB   21  [Oil  tax                                                                    
legislation referred  to as the  More Alaska  Production Act                                                                    
(MAPA)  passed in  2015] resulting  in  more complexity  for                                                                    
auditing purposes.  The department  felt it needed  to bring                                                                    
in people with higher level  auditing experience and, to the                                                                    
extent  possible, people  with oil  company experience.  The                                                                    
audit  masters, rather  than being  auditors on  the ground,                                                                    
functioned in  a training, review,  and support  position to                                                                    
make sure the department was  capturing all the value due to                                                                    
the state.  He thought  it would be  difficult to  assign an                                                                    
actual dollar value.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton asked  if the  commissioner  felt that  the                                                                    
audit masters had paid for  themselves with their expertise.                                                                    
He  asked  if  they  had   recoveries  for  the  state  that                                                                    
superseded  their personnel  expense. Commissioner  Hoffbeck                                                                    
responded affirmatively.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:25:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara commented that the  department was behind on                                                                    
audits and there  was a statute of limitations.  He asked if                                                                    
the department  was keeping up  with the  statutory timeline                                                                    
requirements for  auditing oil company tax  returns. He also                                                                    
inquired whether the  the state had incurred  any losses due                                                                    
to  not  having enough  staff  to  perform thorough  audits.                                                                    
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  responded  that the  department  was                                                                    
comfortably  on schedule  with oil  and gas  tax audits  and                                                                    
staffed sufficiently  to complete  them. The  department was                                                                    
currently in  a 2-year audit  cycle where it was  auditing 2                                                                    
years  at  a  time.  In  other  words,  the  department  was                                                                    
catching  up 1  year  every year.  He  hoped the  department                                                                    
would  be at  a  3-year lag  in audits  within  2 years.  He                                                                    
reported that  a 3-year lag  was the minimum  the department                                                                    
could  achieve  because  of  the time  it  took  to  compile                                                                    
necessary data  and to get all  essential questions answered                                                                    
for completing an  audit. He suggested that it  would take 2                                                                    
more years to get caught up.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  thought  the  stress  of  completing                                                                    
audits could be seen more in  other tax types rather than in                                                                    
oil  and gas  tax  audits. The  department  wanted to  audit                                                                    
other  tax types  more fully  but  did not  have the  needed                                                                    
auditors.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara asked if the  commissioner thought the state                                                                    
was missing out on revenue  that exceeded what it would cost                                                                    
to  properly  perform   the  audits.  Commissioner  Hoffbeck                                                                    
replied that  the department  believed there  was additional                                                                    
revenue  to be  gained. He  did  not want  to comment  about                                                                    
which  departments   were  not   being  audited   fully.  He                                                                    
preferred everyone  to believe  the department  was watching                                                                    
them. He  was happy to answer  the representative's question                                                                    
offline.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt asked if  the state was completed with                                                                    
the more  complex audits related  to the Alaska's  Clear and                                                                    
Equitable Share (ACES) structure.  He wondered if the stress                                                                    
on  auditors would  decline. Commissioner  Hoffbeck reported                                                                    
that  the  department  was currently  fully  into  the  ACES                                                                    
audits which  had allowed the department  to combine audits.                                                                    
The  department had  been through  the first  net tax  audit                                                                    
cycle. The  auditors were more  cognizant of the  issues and                                                                    
the tax payers  were more aware of the  questions they would                                                                    
ask.  The  department  was currently  auditing  tax  returns                                                                    
where regulations were  in place before the  taxes were due,                                                                    
which  has  helped everyone  to  be  in compliance.  As  the                                                                    
department moved  through the audits,  it would  see greater                                                                    
compliance and  less adjustments and  be able to  audit more                                                                    
quickly.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked if the  audits had an  impact on                                                                    
overall  revenue.   Commissioner  Hoffbeck   indicated  that                                                                    
revenues  had  varied   from  year-to-year.  The  department                                                                    
anticipated   about  $200   million   per   year  in   audit                                                                    
adjustments.   He  noted   litigating  certain   audits  and                                                                    
reducing  them over  time. He  thought that  the adjustments                                                                    
would likely go  to about $100 million per  year once people                                                                    
became more aware of the state's expectations.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  asked  how the  state  compensated                                                                    
investment  officers. Commissioner  Hoffbeck responded  that                                                                    
the   investment  officers   were  exempt   state  employees                                                                    
receiving  a fair  salary, although  less  than the  private                                                                    
sector.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  asked whether  the state  would see                                                                    
better  results if  the state  could offer  wages that  were                                                                    
more competitive.  Commissioner Hoffbeck responded  that the                                                                    
department's  investment  officers  did  well  in  achieving                                                                    
returns.  The  department  used   2  different  models.  The                                                                    
treasury with the Alaska  Retirement Management Board (ARMB)                                                                    
investors   typically   brought   in   young   people   with                                                                    
significant capacity,  trained them, and got  them certified                                                                    
to do investment work for the  state. By doing so, the staff                                                                    
was  more stable.  The Alaska  Permanent Fund  Corporation's                                                                    
(APFC)  model  was  to   recruit  investment  officers  with                                                                    
experience but resulted in a higher turnover.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  asked  about   the  loss  of  .043                                                                    
percent   on  the   ARMB's  investment   fund.  Commissioner                                                                    
Hoffbeck stated that most funds  took a loss in the previous                                                                    
year  with the  exception of  the Permanent  Fund (PF).  The                                                                    
Permanent Fund's  return was  driven by  the sale  of shares                                                                    
within  Juneau Therapeutics,  a  venture capital  investment                                                                    
that  did well.  They  went public  and  made a  substantial                                                                    
return.  Otherwise,   the  APFC   would  have   had  similar                                                                    
investment losses  as the  ARMB investments.  Typically, the                                                                    
ARMB and  APFC investment returns paralleled.  He noted that                                                                    
in 33  years the  ARMB had  outperformed APFC  22 of  the 33                                                                    
years  by  small  margins. They  essentially  had  the  same                                                                    
return history.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  advanced to slide  5: "Department  of Revenue                                                                    
Line Items: All  Funds." He indicated that  the slide showed                                                                    
all funds  for DOR line  items on  a scale with  $50 million                                                                    
increments. The most noticeable change  in the graph was the                                                                    
area in  red that increased  from FY 10  through FY 17  on a                                                                    
steady  ramp. Red  represented the  services  line item.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that  the  changes dealt  with  management  fees                                                                    
within ARMB  and APFC. During  the period of growth  from FY                                                                    
11  to FY  16  the  ARMB fees  went  from approximately  $34                                                                    
million to $62 million for  a total increase of $28 million.                                                                    
At  the Alaska  Permanent Fund  Corporation, the  management                                                                    
fees  went from  $76 million  to $151  million in  that same                                                                    
time period, an  increase of $75 million.  He continued that                                                                    
the  increase  of approximately  $100  million  seen on  the                                                                    
graph  was mostly  comprised of  management  fees. He  noted                                                                    
that  in the  beginning of  the time  period there  was some                                                                    
growth in  personal services depicted  in blue.  He detailed                                                                    
that  in FY  08 and  FY  09 the  department added  positions                                                                    
within  the  Tax  Division.  Between  FY 08  and  FY  10  16                                                                    
positions were added and  contractually obligated salary and                                                                    
health adjustments  were made.  Both factors  contributed to                                                                    
the increases within the personal Services line item.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  wanted to confirm that  the management                                                                    
fee  was  a  set  percentage  value.  If  so,  as  the  fund                                                                    
increased, so would  the management fee. He asked  if he was                                                                    
correct. Commissioner Hoffbeck replied in the affirmative.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt asked  if  more  management could  be                                                                    
brought in-house. He wondered  what the legislature could do                                                                    
to help the department  move in that direction. Commissioner                                                                    
Hoffbeck  replied that,  as a  rule of  thumb, it  was about                                                                    
three to  five times  the cost  to have  external management                                                                    
compared to in-house management.  The department was working                                                                    
to  bring  as  much  management  in-house  as  possible.  He                                                                    
detailed   that  the   legislature  had   funded  additional                                                                    
managers  for   the  treasury  for  the   Alaska  Retirement                                                                    
Management  Board  (ARMB)  and  APFC  investments  over  the                                                                    
previous  two years.  The positions  were  either filled  or                                                                    
being  filled.   The  department  expected  to   bring  more                                                                    
investment managing  in-house. Some investments  would never                                                                    
be  managed  in-house  such as  private  equity  investments                                                                    
where a certain level of expertise was necessary.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt asked if  there were plans to increase                                                                    
in-house  management   in  the  coming   year.  Commissioner                                                                    
Hoffbeck  recommended   directing  his   question  regarding                                                                    
whether more  personnel funding  was in  the budget.  He was                                                                    
aware  the department  was in  the process  of hiring  those                                                                    
positions that had been approved  in the past. Mr. DeBartolo                                                                    
answered  that  the  department  did  not  put  funding  for                                                                    
additional personnel in the budget in the current year.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  surmised  the  legislature  probably                                                                    
needed to  ensure there  was an  offsetting. He  asked about                                                                    
correlating value  to in-house  managers in order  to assist                                                                    
legislators   in  understanding   the   amount  of   savings                                                                    
resulting  from  bringing  investment  management  in-house.                                                                    
Commissioner  Hoffbeck replied  that  he  would provide  the                                                                    
information to the committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  stated   that  Representative  Wilson  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo turned to slide  6: "Appropriations within the                                                                    
Department of  Revenue: GF Only."  The Tax Division  was the                                                                    
only  core  program  within  DOR that  was  100  percent  GF                                                                    
funded. He  noted that when  they had increases  it affected                                                                    
graphs like the  one on the slide. He drew  attention to the                                                                    
blue line. He noted that the  call out on the left-hand side                                                                    
outlined some  increases from FY  08 to FY 14  including the                                                                    
audit  masters,  2  commercial analyst  positions,  and  CBR                                                                    
management  fees.   On  2   occasions  the   state  incurred                                                                    
additional management fees.  He also reported that  in FY 14                                                                    
one additional  audit master was  hired for oil and  gas. He                                                                    
continued that  in FY 14  the department inherited  the film                                                                    
office, which  was later repealed, and  the positions became                                                                    
obsolete.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  continued that while growth  was seen through                                                                    
the middle of the chart,  he outlined some things the agency                                                                    
did  to reduce  growth. The  tax Division  saw that  the tax                                                                    
revenue management system was  starting to become effective.                                                                    
The  department started  seeing automation  gains associated                                                                    
with the  system and began  to look at what  positions could                                                                    
be reduced. He  reported that between FY 15 and  FY 16 where                                                                    
a steeper  drop could be  seen on the chart,  the department                                                                    
eliminated   11   tax    positions   including   Information                                                                    
Technology positions that supported  the system, a petroleum                                                                    
policy  analyst,  a  commercial   analyst,  and  some  other                                                                    
positions.  The total  reduction in  positions equated  to a                                                                    
total  of $1.2  million.  The department  also eliminated  3                                                                    
film  office positions  equating  to $346  thousand. On  the                                                                    
treasury side  the department eliminated an  additional $600                                                                    
thousand in CBR management fees.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  continued that on the  child support services                                                                    
line it showed  a decline on the graph between  FY 15 and FY                                                                    
18. The  reduction was  a result  of Child  Support Services                                                                    
eliminating  27  positions  equal  to $1.55  million  in  GF                                                                    
matching  funds. The  division  also closed  its Juneau  and                                                                    
Wasilla satellite offices.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked if  the changes meant  the state                                                                    
would be less effective in enforcing child support laws.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JERRY BURNETT,  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,                                                                    
responded  that  the  department  had  made  a  strong  push                                                                    
towards   not  being   less  effective.   He  believed   the                                                                    
effectiveness  reports would  show that  the department  was                                                                    
able to do the work with its current number of staff.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo turned to slide  7: "Appropriations within the                                                                    
Department  of Revenue:  All Funds."  He indicated  that the                                                                    
Legislative    Finance    Division   slide    was    another                                                                    
representation of  the all funds  slide from page 5  but was                                                                    
broken out  by appropriation.  He noted  that with  APFC the                                                                    
largest  increases   could  be  seen  in   the  custody  and                                                                    
management fees  compared to everything  else on  the chart.                                                                    
It was commensurate with the growth of the assets in-house.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo  detailed  slide 8:  "Department  of  Revenue                                                                    
Total  Funding  Comparison by  Fund  Group:  All funds."  He                                                                    
wanted to get back to talking  about what was unusual or out                                                                    
of the  ordinary on the  chart. He  pointed to the  call out                                                                    
that  showed that  UGF  between  FY 08  and  FY  18 for  DOR                                                                    
increased by  $10.6 million. Much  of the  increase occurred                                                                    
between FY  10 to  FY 11.  He urged members  to look  at the                                                                    
purple  on the  graph.  He reported  that  during that  time                                                                    
period there was a bunch  of one-time items that occurred in                                                                    
the one year. Specifically,  the state crated Alaska Gasline                                                                    
Development Corporation  (AGDC) after HB 369  costing $15.64                                                                    
million. In  the following  year AGDC moved  out of  DOR. He                                                                    
highlighted the  sharp increase and then  the decease. Other                                                                    
things that happened  in the same year included  the sale of                                                                    
Geo  bonds for  library education  and educational  research                                                                    
facilities  totaling $4.7  million. It  was a  one-time item                                                                    
that typically  did not appear  in the  department's budget.                                                                    
These items and  other things he mentioned that  went to the                                                                    
department's base earlier in his  presentation from FY 1- to                                                                    
FY 11 comprised  the sharp increase in UGF  from $17 million                                                                    
to  $51  million  and  then  back  down  as  the  department                                                                    
steadily decreased its UGF expenses.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara pointed  to UGF in FY 10.  Mr. DeBartolo had                                                                    
explained that the funds went  from about $18 million to $51                                                                    
million mostly because  of AGDC. Once AGDC was  moved out of                                                                    
the department, the budget was  $30 million. He asked if the                                                                    
excess amount  was related  to the  gasline. He  noted there                                                                    
had been an increase to  the base consistent through several                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  had mentioned  the increases  to the  base on                                                                    
slide 4.  The increases to  the base  included a DGF  to UGF                                                                    
transfer of  $5.9 for child  support; the  American Recovery                                                                    
and  Reinvestment  Act (ARRA)  fund  of  $826 thousand;  the                                                                    
petroleum  commercial analyst  positions  of $400  thousand,                                                                    
and the CBR of $2.1  million. These items increased the base                                                                    
as  well as  the one-time  items in  that year  that he  had                                                                    
mentioned earlier.  The department had  a lot going  on from                                                                    
FY 10 to  FY 11. He suggested that the  department went from                                                                    
$17  million to  $31 million,  removing the  anomalist year.                                                                    
Much went to the department's base  in that year to the tune                                                                    
of $9 million,  then the trend leveled out  in the remainder                                                                    
of the graph.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara asked  about the  $2 million  for the  CBR.                                                                    
Commissioner Hoffbeck  answered that  the decision  was made                                                                    
to  pay the  management  fees  with UGF  money  for the  CBR                                                                    
instead of  creating a debt  to the reserve that  would then                                                                    
take  an  appropriation  to pay  it  back.  Vice-Chair  Gara                                                                    
responded, "Thant's fine. Thanks."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo explained the changes  on slide 9: "Department                                                                    
of Revenue  [by Program]." He  noted a reduction  within the                                                                    
Treasury Division  of $374.2 thousand  in gf.  The reduction                                                                    
included  moving  one   administrative  position  to  Shared                                                                    
Services of  Alaska, which  equaled a  $25 thousand  GF cut.                                                                    
The department  also had a  reduction of $348.5  thousand in                                                                    
gf  via a  fund  source  change -  an  allocation of  assets                                                                    
changes   under  the   ARM  Board   Management.  Under   the                                                                    
allocation  of unclaimed  property, there  were no  chances,                                                                    
however, he mentioned  that in FY 16  the Unclaimed Property                                                                    
Division moved  $12 million  to GF  from its  trust account.                                                                    
Since the  inception of  the program  in 1986,  $116 million                                                                    
had been placed into the GF coffers of the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz  asked   the  meaning   of  unclaimed                                                                    
property. Mr.  Burnett responded that examples  of unclaimed                                                                    
property would be unused gift cards  or money left in a bank                                                                    
account of  someone who moved  away or died without  a will.                                                                    
That money would be turned over  to the State of Alaska. The                                                                    
person or  their heir could  claim it later.  However, every                                                                    
year the  department calculated the percentage  of money not                                                                    
claimed  and moved  it into  the general  fund. If  a person                                                                    
made a claim  later, they could still be paid,  as there was                                                                    
sufficient money in the trust.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo continued  to the  allocation for  the Alaska                                                                    
Retirement Management Board.  Under Treasury, the department                                                                    
reduced $348.5  thousand in  GF and  increased in  ARM Board                                                                    
funds. Under  ARM Board custody  and management  fees, there                                                                    
would be a reduction for  $12.1 million due to external fees                                                                    
starting  to decline  as  more  investments moved  in-house.                                                                    
Also, some fees were taken  directly from the managed funds.                                                                    
He reported  no changes for  the Alaska Municipal  Bond Bank                                                                    
Authority for the year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:50:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  advanced to slide 10:  "Department of Revenue                                                                    
[by Program  - continued]."  He reported that  the Permanent                                                                    
Fund Dividend Division was taking  a DGF reduction of $177.9                                                                    
thousand.  The  division  was eliminating  2  positions;  an                                                                    
information systems  coordinator and an  imaging technician.                                                                    
He  reported that  the  $80  thousand of  the  $177 was  for                                                                    
reducing  costs associated  with printing  applications. The                                                                    
division  was  moving  towards electronic  applications.  He                                                                    
added  that  one  position  was  being  transferred  to  the                                                                    
Administrative  Services Divisions  for  the state's  shared                                                                    
services initiative.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo continued  that  the  Child Support  Services                                                                    
Division  was  eliminating  $218  thousand  in  GF  matching                                                                    
funds.  The   division  also  eliminated  2   positions  for                                                                    
efficiency  gains associated  with the  new shared  services                                                                    
initiative. It was also eliminated  the remainder of the $25                                                                    
fee,  a subsidy  to custodial  parents. In  the department's                                                                    
last budget  cycle, there was  a decrement of  $100 thousand                                                                    
and in the current budget  cycle it was taking an additional                                                                    
$100  thousand. He  elaborated that  the federal  government                                                                    
mandated  that   states  charge  $25  on   any  payments  to                                                                    
custodial  parents  above  $500.  For years,  the  State  of                                                                    
Alaska  subsidized that  fee. In  the current  situation the                                                                    
department  decided  to  phase  that  subsidy  out.  It  was                                                                    
currently being paid by custodial  parents. He reported that                                                                    
the  department   was  transferring   2  positions   to  the                                                                    
Administrative  Services Division  for  the shared  services                                                                    
initiative  and transferring  3 positions  to the  Office of                                                                    
Information Technology.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo offered that under  the tax Division there was                                                                    
a   reduction  of   $307   thousand   UGF,  which   included                                                                    
eliminating 2  positions; a revenue  appeals officer  and an                                                                    
excise  tax  technician.  The division  also  transferred  a                                                                    
vacant seasonal  position to the  Treasury Division  and was                                                                    
transferring  1  position  to  the  Administrative  Services                                                                    
Division for the shared services initiative.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  reported that there  were no  funding changes                                                                    
in   the  Commissioner's   Office,   but   the  office   was                                                                    
eliminating   an  Alaska   Liquified  Natural   Gas  (AKLNG)                                                                    
position and transferring in  an administrative assistant in                                                                    
Anchorage from  the Criminal Investigations Unit.  Under the                                                                    
Administrative   Services   Division  the   department   was                                                                    
increasing  interagency authority  to $445  thousand because                                                                    
of   the  positions   being  transfer   into  Administrative                                                                    
Services. The  funding was being  left in the  agencies. The                                                                    
department  would charge  the agencies  through the  cost of                                                                    
allocation  plan for  the services  it  would provide  under                                                                    
shared services.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo continued to slide  11: "Department of Revenue                                                                    
Corporations." He reported no  funding changes to the Alaska                                                                    
Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)  Operations or the Alaska                                                                    
Corporation for  Affordable Housing  for the  year. However,                                                                    
AHFC had  capital project requests  in the amount  of $42.55                                                                    
million  similar   to  requests   in  previous   years.  The                                                                    
information was available online.  The Alaska Permanent Fund                                                                    
Corporation  had no  operational  funding changes.  However,                                                                    
like with  the ARM  Board, the  APFC Management  Fee section                                                                    
was taking  a $9.4 million  reduction under other  funds. He                                                                    
relayed  that the  corporation was  also  doing more  assets                                                                    
managed in-house. Market performance  had been less than the                                                                    
projected  mid-case  return  scenario. it  would  bring  the                                                                    
budget in line with anticipated costs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  spoke to indirect expenditures  within DOR.                                                                    
He  pointed out  that  one of  them was  a  100 percent  tax                                                                    
credit allowed  for the second $200  thousand of educational                                                                    
tax  credits.  The  revenue subcommittee  would  be  looking                                                                    
closely at  the issue. It  would also allow  the redirection                                                                    
of so  much of the state's  tax money to other  entities. He                                                                    
thought the  issue was important  to look at.  He encouraged                                                                    
members to  attend the  finance subcommittee  meetings where                                                                    
details would be much further investigated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:56:22 PM                                                                                                                    
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^Judiciary: Alaska Court System Overview                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:59:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG WOOLIVER, DEPUTY  ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA COURT                                                                    
SYSTEM,  introduced  the  PowerPoint  Presentation:  "Alaska                                                                    
Court System Overview" (copy on file).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver turned to slide 2: "Mission Statement":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Mission Statement                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The mission  of the Alaska  Court System is  to provide                                                                    
     an  accessible   and  impartial  forum  for   the  just                                                                    
     resolution of  all cases  that come  before it,  and to                                                                    
     decide  such   cases  in   accordance  with   the  law,                                                                    
     expeditiously and with integrity.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver relayed that the  mission was really to resolve                                                                    
court  cases.  The  mission included  the  system's  guiding                                                                    
principles.  In lean  budget times,  two of  the goals  were                                                                    
always at  risk. The first  was accessibility of  the courts                                                                    
and the second was how  quickly cases could be resolved. The                                                                    
Alaska  Court  System  closed  at  noon  on  Fridays,  which                                                                    
somewhat limited  the public's  access to the  court system.                                                                    
Also, courts  were either closing or  having greatly reduced                                                                    
hours in some of the  small rural magistrate locations which                                                                    
also affected  accessibility. As Judiciary reduced  more and                                                                    
more  of  its  staffing  levels  it  became  more  and  more                                                                    
difficult  to  do things  in  a  timely manner.  Judiciary's                                                                    
challenge was to  manage budget cuts in a  way that impacted                                                                    
its goals  in the least  way possible. However,  there would                                                                    
be impacts.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  turned to  the 10-year look  back on  slide 3:                                                                    
"Judiciary's Share of Total Agency  Operations: GF Only." He                                                                    
pointed  out that  from FY  08 through  FY 15  Judiciary had                                                                    
general increases  in its budget.  The overall share  of the                                                                    
general fund budget had not  changed much. It was just above                                                                    
2  percent.  The budget  had  gone  up  16 hundredths  of  1                                                                    
percent. In  general, it was  a flat level for  the agency's                                                                    
total  share.   He  indicated  he   would  talk   about  the                                                                    
reductions which  showed up in  FY 16,  17, and 18  later in                                                                    
his presentation. There were three  primary drivers that had                                                                    
led to increases in the budget  over the years. One was that                                                                    
Judiciary had asked for  legislative approval for additional                                                                    
judges  and staff  in court  locations  where the  workloads                                                                    
warranted the  increases. Another  main driver had  been the                                                                    
general salary  increases that the legislature  approved for                                                                    
non-covered  employees including  employees in  the Judicial                                                                    
branch.  One other  area  that was  reflected  in the  court                                                                    
system's increase, but not an  actual increase in money, was                                                                    
the  therapeutic courts.  He reported  that all  the funding                                                                    
associated  with those  efforts  were moved  into the  court                                                                    
system  in  FY 10  and  FY  11. Representative  Mike  Hawker                                                                    
thought it  would be much  easier to oversee and  manage the                                                                    
therapeutic  courts projects  if all  the money  was in  one                                                                    
location. Throughout  the years, with therapeutic  courts, a                                                                    
bill  would  pass with  several  fiscal  notes from  various                                                                    
departments.  Rather  than  having   the  funds  spread  out                                                                    
throughout  the executive  branch's budget  and a  little in                                                                    
the court  system, the  legislature took  all the  funds and                                                                    
placed  them in  Judiciary's budget.  Judiciary then  issued                                                                    
Reimbursable Service  Agreements (RSA) to  various agencies.                                                                    
It  was  an  increase  in  Judiciary's  budget  but  not  an                                                                    
increase to overall state spending.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara asked how much  funding and in what year was                                                                    
therapeutic  courts  transferred.   He  wondered  about  the                                                                    
amount  proposed  for  therapeutic  court  sin  FY  18.  Mr.                                                                    
Wooliver  replied that  the funds  from  the other  agencies                                                                    
were transferred  in FY 11.  The total cost  for therapeutic                                                                    
courts for FY 18 was approximately $4.7 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  asked about  the amount in  FY 11  that was                                                                    
transferred.  Mr.   Wooliver  thought  it  was   about  $3.5                                                                    
million. At the  peak the amount for  therapeutic courts was                                                                    
slightly more  than $5 million.  Now the number was  down to                                                                    
$4.7 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  asked  what  percentage  of  Alaska's                                                                    
population had  access to  therapeutic courts  services. Mr.                                                                    
Wooliver responded that there  were lots of opportunities in                                                                    
the  urban  centers,  but the  state  also  had  therapeutic                                                                    
courts  in Ketchikan,  Juneau, and  Bethel. There  were also                                                                    
therapeutic courts in Kenai, Palmer, and Anchorage.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:05:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  pointed to the  chart showing a  10-year look-                                                                    
back broken  down by line  item on slide 4:  "Judiciary Line                                                                    
Item  Comparison:  All  Funds."   He  highlighted  that  the                                                                    
largest  part of  Judiciary's budget  was personal  services                                                                    
which made  up about  three-quarters of the  branch's entire                                                                    
budget. He noted  that the only other  category that changed                                                                    
much was the second  largest category, contractual services.                                                                    
It  reflected the  fact that  therapeutic courts  were moved                                                                    
into Judiciary's budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Wooliver   advanced    to    slide   5:    "Judiciary                                                                    
Appropriations: GF Only." He reported  that the same 10-year                                                                    
look back could be seen  except it separated out therapeutic                                                                    
courts. They could  be seen at the bottom of  the chart. The                                                                    
chart  also included  the Alaska  Judicial  Council and  the                                                                    
Commission  on  Judicial  Conduct.  Both were  part  of  the                                                                    
judicial  branch of  government but  were separate  from the                                                                    
court  system  itself.  The chart  reflected  general  funds                                                                    
only.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver touched on  slide 6: "Judiciary Appropriations:                                                                    
All  Funds"  He  reported  that   the  slide  looked  almost                                                                    
identical to  the previous slide  because 97 percent  of the                                                                    
court  system's   budget  was   general  funds.   The  slide                                                                    
reflected all funds but looked like the previous one.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  scrolled to slide 7:  "Judiciary Total Funding                                                                    
Comparison by  Fund Group: All  Funds." He  highlighted that                                                                    
green  represented general  fund dollars.  There were  small                                                                    
amounts of money  in other areas including  $1.25 million in                                                                    
federal program  receipt authority, an amount  Judiciary had                                                                    
not received  but had  the authority  to receive.  There was                                                                    
$1.8  million  in  other state  funds,  mostly  inter-agency                                                                    
transfers  for  the  Family Law  Self-Help  Center  and  the                                                                    
Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust   Authority.  The  court  also                                                                    
received  money   from  the   Public  Defender   agency  for                                                                    
transcripts  and appeal  cases. He  reported that  the court                                                                    
system had  $518 thousand in designated  general funds (DGF)                                                                    
from  alcohol tax  proceeds  that  went towards  therapeutic                                                                    
court participant treatment. The  other $105 million was the                                                                    
97 percent of general funds.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver slide 8: "UGF Budget Cuts FY16 - FY18":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · FY16 - $3,430.4 (3.1%)*                                                                                                    
   · FY17 - $3,805.0 (3.5%)                                                                                                     
   · FY18 Proposed - $3,671.8 (3.5%) **                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   * The FY16 cut was offset by a 2.5% salary increase                                                                          
   resulting in a net reduction of $1,427.6.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   ** The FY18 proposed cut may be offset by increased                                                                          
   healthcare costs resulting in a net reduction of                                                                             
   $1,821.4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver relayed that currently  Judiciary was in budget                                                                    
cutting mode.  He reported that if  the legislature approved                                                                    
the proposed reduction of $3.67  the Court system would have                                                                    
reduced its  costs over  the last  3 years  by approximately                                                                    
$11 million.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  turned to slide  9: "Examples  of Cost-Savings                                                                    
Measures":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   Examples of Cost-Savings Measures                                                                                            
     · E-Distribution Project                                                                                                   
     · Mini-RIP                                                                                                                 
     · Deleted 29 PFT, 14 PPT, and 2 Temporary Positions                                                                        
        for a total of 45 Deleted Positions                                                                                     
     · Holding Positions Vacant                                                                                                 
     · Continuing with Friday Afternoon Closures                                                                                
     · Purchase Computers Using Grant Funds                                                                                     
     · Expanded Use of Videoconferencing                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked if there had  been any analysis                                                                    
been  done to  look at  the affects  of closing  at noon  on                                                                    
Friday. Mr.  Wooliver responded that Judiciary  had reviewed                                                                    
the  effects of  closing  at  noon on  Fridays.  It did  not                                                                    
affect  things to  the  extent that  was  anticipated for  a                                                                    
couple  of reasons.  First,  the court  closed  at 4:30  pm.                                                                    
Employees worked from  4:30 pm to 5:00 pm to  help them keep                                                                    
up with the work load and  to avoid falling behind. It was a                                                                    
half hour at the  end of each day when they  did not have to                                                                    
deal with  new cases  coming in and  people at  the counter.                                                                    
There was  freed up  work time  at the end  of the  day. The                                                                    
office of  Children's Services reported that  by having half                                                                    
a  day every  week  where there  were  no court  appearances                                                                    
allowed them to  do other work. Attorneys  had also provided                                                                    
positive feedback  about the closure  of the courts  at noon                                                                    
on Friday. The  closure did not keep people  in jail longer.                                                                    
They  remained  on the  same  schedule  because judges  were                                                                    
always  available  for  emergency  proceedings,  bails,  and                                                                    
those types  of things. In other  words, certain proceedings                                                                    
continue even though the general  court doors were closed at                                                                    
noon on Friday.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:09:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson  mentioned   a  circumstance   where                                                                    
scheduling  in the  courts was  problematic  because of  the                                                                    
availability  of  judges. She  asked  if  there were  enough                                                                    
judges. She wondered  if it had to do with  reduced hours on                                                                    
Fridays. Mr. Wooliver indicated  that courts were very busy,                                                                    
and frequently cases had to  be scheduled weeks or months in                                                                    
advance.  The type  of case  influenced scheduling.  Certain                                                                    
types  of  cases  moved  faster  than  general  civil  cases                                                                    
without statutory  timelines. He elaborated that  every time                                                                    
the legislature  or federal government placed  a timeline on                                                                    
a  case type,  cases not  benefitting from  a timeline  were                                                                    
pushed back.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  pointed to  the final  bullet point                                                                    
on   slide   9  regarding   the   expanded   use  of   video                                                                    
conferencing. He  asked if the  state was behind  because of                                                                    
broadband not expanding enough.  He wondered about potential                                                                    
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wooliver  replied  that  the   court  system  had  good                                                                    
broadband. In  previous years, the legislature  had provided                                                                    
funding   for  broadband   which  helped   tremendously.  He                                                                    
reported that  Southeast Alaska,  in particular,  used video                                                                    
conferencing  for court  hearings  regularly. Broadband  was                                                                    
used throughout  the state. For  example, a judge  could sit                                                                    
in  Ketchikan and  preside over  a  case in  Juneau or  vice                                                                    
versa.  One of  the  largest savings  associated with  video                                                                    
conferencing was  for prisoner  transport. Not long  ago the                                                                    
Department of  Public Safety would  charter an  aircraft and                                                                    
fly from Anvil  Mountain Correctional Center in  Nome with a                                                                    
prisoner for  a short hearing in  Kotzebue. Currently, there                                                                    
was  a  video link  between  Kotzebue  Courthouse and  Anvil                                                                    
Mountain   Correctional   Center    because   of   bandwidth                                                                    
improvements.  In FY  18 the  court system  would be  saving                                                                    
approximately $900  thousand in  bandwidth costs  because of                                                                    
moving to a different system. It  would be a system that the                                                                    
state,  rather  than GCI  managing  it.  He reiterated  that                                                                    
video  conferencing  was  fabulous. He  relayed  that  video                                                                    
conferencing was  also used  for sign  language interpreters                                                                    
and  spoken language  interpreters. Such  services could  be                                                                    
contracted  outside   the  state  and  provided   via  video                                                                    
conferencing for a fraction of the cost.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg mentioned  availability versus the                                                                    
cost of  broadband. He noted  the difficulty of  having good                                                                    
broadband.  He   mentioned  the  Quintillion   fiber  optics                                                                    
project.  He wondered  if there  was  anything the  judicial                                                                    
system  had where  the costs  were  subsidized, covered,  or                                                                    
given a  priority of use. He  asked if there were  any funds                                                                    
or  programs  set aside  that  directly  affected the  court                                                                    
system and its  ability to function. He  believed Alaska was                                                                    
unique.  He  suggested  that  no one  else  had  a  prisoner                                                                    
transportation  cost. He  asked if  there were  any programs                                                                    
that  would benefit  the courts  directly. Mr.  Wooliver was                                                                    
not aware of any, but he would look into it.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:15:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked Mr. Wooliver to  briefly explain                                                                    
the mini retirement incentive program  and how much money it                                                                    
saved the court system.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wooliver  responded  that   in  the  prior  summer  the                                                                    
administrative director came up with  the idea of offering a                                                                    
retirement   incentive  program   to  some   of  Judiciary's                                                                    
employees. She  offered it to  employees that had  been with                                                                    
the court  for at least 10  years and who had  been eligible                                                                    
to retire for at least 3  years. The incentive to retire was                                                                    
3 months  of severance pay.  He reported that there  were 28                                                                    
people eligible  for the program, of  which 16 participated.                                                                    
It would  save the  court system over  $600 thousand  in the                                                                    
coming  year. The  positions that  became vacant  because of                                                                    
someone retiring would be held  vacant, replaced with a part                                                                    
time employee,  or replace  with a  full-time employee  at a                                                                    
much lower salary. Many of  the people that retired were way                                                                    
out in the  step range and could be  replaced with employees                                                                    
at  a step  A  or step  B.  Such a  program  was favored  by                                                                    
Judiciary because  not only did  the employee  feel positive                                                                    
with the deal,  but it saved the court  system a significant                                                                    
amount of money. The program had been very successful                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  continued reviewing  slide 9. He  relayed that                                                                    
because  three-quarters of  Judiciary's budget  was personal                                                                    
services, most of  the savings came from that  area as well.                                                                    
The  department   realized  the  savings  by   holding  many                                                                    
positions vacant, deleting positions,  and closing on Friday                                                                    
afternoons resulting in a pay  cut for employees. There were                                                                    
several other things  the court system did to  save money at                                                                    
least in the short term.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wooliver  reviewed  slide 10:  "FY18  Operating  Budget                                                                    
Cuts":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   FY18 Operating Budget Cuts                                                                                                   
     · 3.5% Budget Cut from FY17 Adjusted Base Budget                                                                           
        (Adjusted for Healthcare Costs) - $3,671.8                                                                              
     · $1,400.0 Personal Services                                                                                               
     · $900.0 Bandwidth Costs                                                                                                   
     · $800.0 Commodities, Computers, and Postage                                                                               
     · $300.0 Bethel Accommodation                                                                                              
     · $150.0 Therapeutic Court Contracts and Services                                                                          
     · $121.8 Leases and Leasehold Costs                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  explained that  there were  2 types  of budget                                                                    
cuts.  The  first  were emergency  reductions  such  as  not                                                                    
replacing  computers or  not  conducting judicial  training.                                                                    
Some  were  temporary such  that  if  the state  received  a                                                                    
windfall  it would  return to  offering additional  training                                                                    
and  replacing  computers on  a  regular  cycle. There  were                                                                    
other types of  savings that were more  permanent which were                                                                    
the  type Judiciary  tried  to find.  For  example, when  e-                                                                    
filing came on  line, the first phase of which  would be the                                                                    
following several months, Judiciary  would need fewer staff.                                                                    
Therefore, many  of the  staffing positions  currently being                                                                    
held vacant  will not have  to be refilled. They  were long-                                                                    
term savings that made sense.  He also mentioned the reduced                                                                    
cost in bandwidth as an example.  It resulted in a saving he                                                                    
anticipated going  forward forever. The Alaska  Court System                                                                    
now distributed much of its  materials through emails rather                                                                    
than through the  mail which saved hundreds  of thousands of                                                                    
dollars in printing costs, postage costs, and paper costs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson mentioned  the  recent decision  in                                                                    
the memorandum of understanding  with the Anvik Tribe taking                                                                    
over cases  and having tribal  courts. He asked if  it would                                                                    
potentially save  the state a  significant amount  of money.                                                                    
Mr. Wooliver responded  that he did not  think a significant                                                                    
amount of  money would  be saved in  the near  future. There                                                                    
were a  relatively small number  of case. He was  aware that                                                                    
for  many  years the  court  has  liked  the idea  of  local                                                                    
communities being able  to resolve some of  the small issues                                                                    
that arose in  the communities. He mentioned  that the court                                                                    
system  entered into  its first  joint  state court,  tribal                                                                    
court, therapeutic  court in Kenai with  the Kenaitze tribe.                                                                    
It was a  voluntary program and was not just  for members of                                                                    
the tribe.  It was a  therapeutic court program with  both a                                                                    
tribal court  judge and a  state court judge sitting  on the                                                                    
bench together. It  was the type of effort  the court system                                                                    
was seeing and encouraging.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver detailed  slide 11: "Judiciary: Appropriations/                                                                    
Allocation."  He  explained  that  the  slide  showed  where                                                                    
Judiciary's money came  from and where it  went. The funding                                                                    
allocations  were  almost  all general  funds.  The  various                                                                    
sections included  appellate courts,  trial courts,  etc. He                                                                    
reported that  the Alaska Court  System brought in  about $7                                                                    
million from the various categories  listed on the slide. He                                                                    
highlighted  the   designation  for   constitutional  versus                                                                    
statutory requirements.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver explained slide 12: "Alaskans Served in 2016":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   Alaskans Served in 2016                                                                                                      
     · 120,573 new cases filed (trial and appellate)                                                                            
     · 7,000 contacts through the Family Law Self Help                                                                          
        Center                                                                                                                  
     · 23,645 jurors reported for service                                                                                       
     · 7,762 law library patrons                                                                                                
     · 670,723 citizens passed through security screening                                                                       
     · 4,765,056 visits to the court's website                                                                                  
     · 871,172 CourtView searches                                                                                               
     · 19,145 online payments made                                                                                              
     · 595 therapeutic court participants                                                                                       
     · Thousands of on-line court forms accessed or                                                                             
        downloaded                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wooliver  reported that  the  system  served people  in                                                                    
several different ways. He read  the numbers. He highlighted                                                                    
the number of people who  accessed the court system for case                                                                    
files searching for cases and  people who accessed the court                                                                    
for  forms and  booklets.  He suggested  that everyone  used                                                                    
CourtView for a host of  reasons. In the past, people either                                                                    
did not look  up anything or they went to  court to find the                                                                    
files.  CourtView was  a huge  savings for  the court  and a                                                                    
convenience   for  citizens   to  look   up  records.   More                                                                    
importantly,   there   were   thousands  of   online   forms                                                                    
accessible  to  the public.  In  the  prior year,  about  30                                                                    
thousand  people  viewed  the landlord  tenant  booklet  and                                                                    
about 20 thousand viewed the  booklet on small claims. About                                                                    
50 thousand people  looked at court forms,  which meant that                                                                    
about  50  thousand booklets  did  not  have to  be  printed                                                                    
resulting  in significant  savings. He  also drew  attention                                                                    
that 19  thousand online payments  were made, most  of which                                                                    
were related to  traffic tickets. It meant  that 19 thousand                                                                    
people did not come into court  with a check in hand to give                                                                    
to  a clerk  for  processing.  It saved  the  court and  the                                                                    
person time and effort.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson  mentioned   that  there   were  595                                                                    
therapeutic  court  participants.   She  wondered  how  many                                                                    
actually graduated. Mr. Wooliver  indicated he would provide                                                                    
her the number for FY 16.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  noted the  cost of $8000  per person.                                                                    
She  also asked  about the  last  time court  fees had  been                                                                    
adjusted. Mr. Wooliver responded in  the prior year in early                                                                    
FY 16. Prior to that it  had been about 12 years since court                                                                    
filing fees had been raised.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:26:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver  turned to the  final slide  13: "Effectiveness                                                                    
Ratings and Measures":                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   Effectiveness Ratings and Measures                                                                                           
     · Case Clearance Rates                                                                                                     
     · Alternative Dispute Resolution Programs                                                                                  
     · Customer Surveys                                                                                                         
     · Jurors and Vendors Paid Timely                                                                                           
     · Electronic Efficiencies                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wooliver noted that every  year many cases came into the                                                                    
court and the  state needed to send out or  resolve the same                                                                    
number of cases, although they  were not all the same cases.                                                                    
Cases could be filed in  November and resolved a year later.                                                                    
However, overall  the court  system had  a 100  percent case                                                                    
clearance rate. It  meant that over the years  as many cases                                                                    
were  resolved  as came  into  the  court to  avoid  getting                                                                    
behind.  In  terms  of  effectiveness,  he  pointed  to  the                                                                    
alternative   dispute  resolution   program  bullet   point.                                                                    
Specifically,  he  spoke of  the  program  called the  Early                                                                    
Resolution  Project.   It  was   a  program   that  mediated                                                                    
settlements  for family  law  cases  including divorces  and                                                                    
child  custody cases.  The  program had  been  in place  for                                                                    
about 6.5  years. In  that time, about  1400 cases  had been                                                                    
resolved affecting  a little over  3000 people.  Rather than                                                                    
going through  the regular route  of several  court hearings                                                                    
spread  out   over  months  to   resolve  a   divorce  case,                                                                    
participants  came  in  for  one  day,  met  with  volunteer                                                                    
attorneys from the local bar  association, had their dispute                                                                    
mediated,  met   a  judge,  and   the  judge   approved  the                                                                    
settlement. About 80 percent of  participants walked out the                                                                    
door with their  case settled in one day  saving an enormous                                                                    
amount of time and  money. He reemphasized the effectiveness                                                                    
of the program. The program was  run by the family law self-                                                                    
help center. He was available for questions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton reminded members that further details would                                                                     
be provided during finance subcommittee meetings. He                                                                            
reviewed the agenda for the following day.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:29:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:29 p.m.                                                                                          

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